tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1276460043263700723.post5918244375581829064..comments2023-11-05T06:40:37.214-06:00Comments on Fashion Addict: Fashion Is Still Racistturbopenguinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08482563761067054926noreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1276460043263700723.post-3348690027793779472009-03-18T20:52:00.000-05:002009-03-18T20:52:00.000-05:00I was just thinking the same thing earlier. It sho...I was just thinking the same thing earlier. It shouldn't matter what color a woman comes in. Model or Not. I was looking at pictures of Noemie Lenoir and couldn't help but notice the ridiculous amount of posing she does with wild animals or animal print on. because she's 'exotic'. Having been raised in a black family, as a person of mixed ethnic background, I find nothing especially exotic about her. She just got the 'good eyes' and light skin.<BR/><BR/>And it's not like there are plenty caucasians who are french models who look exotic, Julie Ordon for one. But, because she's black, or ethnically inclined as my mother and I joke, she's paired with wild animals.<BR/><BR/>And you look at some of the models that get looked over who are ethnic but are too typical? So you can be the standard blue-eyed blond and be perfect, but other wise Jordon is the closest we'll ever come to a normal looking black woman?<BR/><BR/>Why do we need a all black issue? Are they going to do an all latin issue, and all asian issue too? Why celebrate just black people?<BR/><BR/>But you know what they say about squeeky wheels, Mooksies comment is a fine example of that.Kurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13021589304529507044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1276460043263700723.post-78185360548393750132008-09-29T21:47:00.000-05:002008-09-29T21:47:00.000-05:00Hmm, I think the older generation might disagree. ...Hmm, I think the older generation might disagree. You cannot just ignore differences in race in order to avoid racism. As a minority, I do not want "pass" for being pretty based on a caucasian template. I am an exotic person with ethnic features and I want to be recognized for my complexion and features. I think the black model issue is great especially for a European issue.Andreahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14260568608760188325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1276460043263700723.post-58141566339433340072008-09-01T19:39:00.000-05:002008-09-01T19:39:00.000-05:00I would have to agree! I expressed similar frustr...I would have to agree! I expressed similar frustrations in my blog!Jovon Higginshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04690830165484361096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1276460043263700723.post-12559728146974362052008-08-29T23:57:00.000-05:002008-08-29T23:57:00.000-05:00It should be just about fashion but unfortunately,...It should be just about fashion but unfortunately, it's not, not yet at least. I was very proud that they had an all black issue, me being a black. But I agree if they represented ALL races in fashion magazines, then an all black issue wouldn't have to be made in the first place. It's like having BET, black scholarships, etc etc.groovacioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13304757164001256504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1276460043263700723.post-12536191538134076602008-08-11T17:13:00.000-05:002008-08-11T17:13:00.000-05:00this subject really annoys me. Its like when i was...this subject really annoys me. Its like when i was at primary school most of the kids in my class were white appart from one boy but i never ever saw him as different from us in anyway. I only did when we learnt about racism and all that and then ever since then I'm always thinking 'oh i better not say anything to offend them!' not that i would anyway! and then i have to worry about it and its so so stupid and i wish people would just not care about how ages ago a whole generation ago they werent accepted and that because now everyone is suppose to be so they should stop bringing it up so that the world can just get on with the fact that everyone is different. And stop teaching kids about it!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07046400042886280217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1276460043263700723.post-65270146248603276812008-08-11T13:42:00.000-05:002008-08-11T13:42:00.000-05:00I was just thinking the same thing a few days ago....I was just thinking the same thing a few days ago. Why must there be a token "black issue?" Why can't there be women of all races side by side? What? will Vogue suddenly go back to mostly white models after this issue? Black models should be a permanent fixture in fashion, not just a once a year novelty.Gabbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16620776224017112906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1276460043263700723.post-9159446296383612012008-08-10T04:41:00.000-05:002008-08-10T04:41:00.000-05:00great blog, love to see articles like this. and yo...great blog, love to see articles like this. and you make a really good point here. I don't mind adding you to my blogroll!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1276460043263700723.post-41493251914169756942008-08-09T13:26:00.000-05:002008-08-09T13:26:00.000-05:00honestly this is so true I totally agree with you ...honestly this is so true I totally agree with you it almost seems as if black people arn't takin seriously in the industry...when you and i both know that there are alot of beautiful black models as well as indian and asain i think they should be posted more in magazines and bilboards and runways...and not the most african looking ones either...were all beautiful people no matter what colour we are!....love this post and your blog...Robert Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00228038135265655025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1276460043263700723.post-18434985195694665282008-08-07T06:54:00.000-05:002008-08-07T06:54:00.000-05:00Is it me, or are those models AWFULLY light skin??...Is it me, or are those models AWFULLY light skin?? Either they are not one hundred percent black, or they are painted and lit up with makeup and lights SO much that they HARDLY look black.<BR/><BR/>What happened to Alex Wek!??!<BR/><BR/>I'd say this hardly even qualifies as a "black issue" but maybe I am mistaken.Crispy Bananahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06211885816154630720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1276460043263700723.post-68429280422540442082008-08-06T11:37:00.000-05:002008-08-06T11:37:00.000-05:00we definitely need more diversity. great post!we definitely need more diversity. great post!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1276460043263700723.post-40329958372443869232008-08-04T22:17:00.000-05:002008-08-04T22:17:00.000-05:00i was watching an interview with morgan freedmon s...i was watching an interview with morgan freedmon several months ago and when he was asked if he thought racism would ever end, he said something to the effect that it would cease when people stopped seeing people as seperate races. it'll happen when we stop looking at people and think, "she's black" or "he's white". <BR/>i agree with that. i think that once people stop making such a big deal out of 'racism' and realize it doesn't matter, we are all humans. people go overboard these days with every little thing. analyzing every comment. <BR/>but in a way, i think there's process to getting there, and that we need analyze & fix these issues (such as racism in fashion) before we can move on to viewing everyone as one race.<BR/>woof. that was kinda heavy.<BR/>anyways. that's just what i think.<BR/>and good post. : ]<BR/><33Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1276460043263700723.post-22511084577958567522008-08-04T15:16:00.000-05:002008-08-04T15:16:00.000-05:00It irks me how people say :Black History" is a for...It irks me how people say :Black History" is a form of segregation. IF HISTORY ( at least american) was taught truthfully, there wouldnt need to be black history. If blacks were left out we wouldnt have to force our way in. Some of you really need to educate yourselves on the black struggle in America. It is more than just black and white. r.m it is sad you are bothered, but its probably because you take what you are taught at face value ...do you still believe christopher columbus discovered america????<BR/><BR/>sadAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1276460043263700723.post-55394001116266380932008-08-02T12:45:00.000-05:002008-08-02T12:45:00.000-05:00I agree. I thought all the craziness about the all...I agree. I thought all the craziness about the all black issue was weird. Next issue isn't it going to go back to the same ratio of white models as compared to models of color again? If that happens they've just drawn more attention to that fact, which will ultimately make them look bad. I think a better idea would be just to start incorporating models of different races without saying anything about it. Or, if they really wanted to say something about it, have an editorial explaining the decision.the Launderettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09533081699408855253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1276460043263700723.post-25426780275585717242008-08-02T11:17:00.000-05:002008-08-02T11:17:00.000-05:00can i just say how much i love your posts? you con...can i just say how much i love your posts? you consistently give me something new to think about with every post.<BR/><BR/>on this topic, i couldn't agree with you more. i bought the vogue italia black issue while i was abroad in france, excited because i'd read that it was sold out at home in new york, buying into the hype over what a landmark this magazine was. which it is, to a certain extent, but the more i thought about it, i realized there's something very "separate but equal" about the whole idea that just doesn't sit well with me. i guess you can chalk it up to good intentions and poor execution.roxannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10330463698852855073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1276460043263700723.post-84618178264266443602008-08-01T11:16:00.000-05:002008-08-01T11:16:00.000-05:00i totally agree with you!!! i'm sure they had good...i totally agree with you!!! i'm sure they had good intentions and that it was something to give more awareness to the black models out there, but it's just weird to have a complete issue that is "all-black". it's sort of like saying once this one issue is over, the magazine will resume without any black models. the fashion industry has always been known to be mean and even cruel, but i really hope that one day it will change to accept all races for what they are. xoxo, luluLuLu124https://www.blogger.com/profile/06852435506036877022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1276460043263700723.post-89147909427684513202008-08-01T05:07:00.000-05:002008-08-01T05:07:00.000-05:00You have inspired my post today!You have inspired my post today!Janehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01351497943306272385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1276460043263700723.post-67271459834094751372008-08-01T00:56:00.000-05:002008-08-01T00:56:00.000-05:00I agree with what you're saying. And besides this ...I agree with what you're saying. And besides this whole "black issue" being used as a type of publicity stunt I also think it ties in to how people like to think that THEY'RE the norm.* (With how black history has to be highlighted in a month and with this all black issue)<BR/><BR/>What I mean by that is how people 1)can't look at things from different POV's while maintaining their own and 2)how people are "surprised" when someone isn't "like" them.<BR/><BR/>A <I>prime</I> example of this would be whenever I decide to wear my hair naturally. I cannot tell you how many times I've had people in my school come and stick their hands in my hair. Everyone knows what an afro looks like but for some reason when I wear my hair out it turns into this event. <BR/>I wanted to see what would happen if I did this (randomly touched her hair) to one of my white friends and when I did it I got some weird looks. Hmmmm..<BR/><BR/>The world is racist sadly so of course the fashion industry is also racist. I just don't plan on letting that hold me back any time soon. <BR/><BR/>*An example of this I guess would be how to me (since I live in North America, Canada to be exact) people on the other side of the planet are driving "backwards". But when they look at me and how I drive I'm the one driving on the wrong side of the road.Valentinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06791642239761083265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1276460043263700723.post-20633709863424310092008-07-31T23:48:00.000-05:002008-07-31T23:48:00.000-05:00you're on it!you're on it!Andreahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05975035307534568247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1276460043263700723.post-44537652414676103282008-07-31T22:26:00.000-05:002008-07-31T22:26:00.000-05:00I completely agree. I feel like when people single...I completely agree. I feel like when people single races out, even with good intentions, it really is just racism in it's own way.michellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04747160922702725427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1276460043263700723.post-80207185281956339212008-07-31T16:26:00.000-05:002008-07-31T16:26:00.000-05:00bravo, marina, so true. but this idea of a homogen...bravo, marina, so true. but this idea of a homogenous beauty is with all the girls - they all have to get their noses done, etc.Triciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10725622243610103808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1276460043263700723.post-23439894260088109302008-07-31T15:09:00.000-05:002008-07-31T15:09:00.000-05:00Very insightful article. I have to agree with Mari...Very insightful article. I have to agree with Marina that it does seem that even though there are "black models" they still tend to align with the narrow definition of beauty which tends to be somewhat similar to Caucasian features. I think Italian Vogue is heading in the right direction, but they shouldn't be overly applauded b/c yes this shouldn't be a special issue, it should be the norm.MizzJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00770130641318501232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1276460043263700723.post-39654640226346328312008-07-31T14:34:00.000-05:002008-07-31T14:34:00.000-05:00Thoughful post! I agree that it creates a problem ...Thoughful post! I agree that it creates a problem that by now in our society should be not be an issue. I also studied journalism in the US, and when they told us white people are in much more demand I just could not believe it.Siljesfashionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03879341136613340075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1276460043263700723.post-30310250737280059252008-07-31T13:22:00.000-05:002008-07-31T13:22:00.000-05:00From the Guardian (the author -- and I! -- agrees ...From the Guardian (the author -- and I! -- agrees completely with you),<BR/><BR/>"By simultaneously marking blackness as 'special' and yet ensuring conformity to dominant (white and European) ideas of sophistication and beauty, the 'black issue' tells us a great deal about race and ethnicity in the media today. To be non-white is to be constantly relegated to a 'special issue', while the regular edition remains determinedly white."<BR/><BR/>x<BR/>allisonallisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05699884615574079730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1276460043263700723.post-15197529297668715392008-07-31T13:08:00.000-05:002008-07-31T13:08:00.000-05:00can I say something maybe disturbing but....?Do yo...can I say something maybe disturbing but....?<BR/><BR/>Do you realize that black top models have white features (small nose-almond shaped eyes...)<BR/><BR/>Seriously, besides Alek Wek who really looks 100% black and hasn't had any surgery, don't you think it's even more irritating that to be a black top model you have to go the same path as Naomi aka. get as much plastic surgery as you can to erase any ethicity from your face?<BR/><BR/>Please, take a look at the first pictures Naomi took (or at Tyra's "old" nose).<BR/><BR/>I think making black people look white to work in fashion is even more racist than hiring just a few of them.<BR/><BR/>As for the "models of any size and shape" puh-lease !!! Models are not supposed to look average - they are supposed to look dreamy.<BR/>This is why they will never come in any given size - period.<BR/><BR/>love,<BR/><BR/>marina hermanovnaMARAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08696473616579856375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1276460043263700723.post-64992976331957116792008-07-31T11:53:00.000-05:002008-07-31T11:53:00.000-05:00I agree with you!Amazing post!!!I agree with you!<BR/>Amazing post!!!Carolina Langehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01834532723294653752noreply@blogger.com